Jaska Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) I really would like to work on some "real" games. So if there is someone from the industry seeing this, send a message, heh. As an IT-engineer, "formally competent". Download link: https://www.mediafire.com/file/o76cq8kv4gjbonj/Jaskas_LostCivilization2_10.pk3/file fixed to 1.0 version Spoiler Last version was 0.5, however I just never updated it when developing.. Just forgot version number exists, heh. -Narrowed down difficulty settings -map02: removed debug print -map02: skybox fixed -map02: made more clear where to go on after gen. activation. -map02: removed waterfall effect, it tanked FPS. -map03: removed old script activation -map03: sound propagation fix. More blocking. -map05: removed/fixed dialog at the end -map05: has music now, while I don't think it needs it or this fits it even. -map05: added monsters, ammo, more stuff (9.10.2023) Old link if I messed something badly. Spoiler https://www.mediafire.com/file/po2yuz8jm51s328/Jaskas_LostCivilization2.pk3/file -Port: GZDoom. Version min. 4.7.1 required (ZScripting) -Dynamic lights ON (Some places extremely dark otherwise) -Shadowmapping recommended -Bloom recommended -Jumping needed -Crouching can be useful to get through breakable walls (saves explosives) -Difficulty levels are not implemented at all! (yet, just maybe going to remove all options) -7 maps with ending scene and a secret map. Playtime varies a lot depending how you play it. (30 minutes to 1-2 hours) -Nash's gore mod, good(must have) for every map-pack https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=62641 So the gameplay is mainly exploration with small fights here and there. More shooting in the end. You can solve some puzzles or not, those are mostly optional. Gameplay is easygoing. Nothing for Doom-veterans (easy). Has a little scarier moments to spice things up. -classic doom gunplay/encounters (custom enemies & weapons too) -simple mostly optional puzzles and quests -horror elements -realistic locations with cozy feeling -linear and nonlinear parts -inventory items, useful and not so useful -collectibles -dynamically destroyable walls Fights will need some updates, I think. Ammo can be scarce, just run away (maybe have to add some on some places). Plot: You just want to get to a vacation. Longer plot: Spoiler A dystopian world where ignorant, idiotic, hysteric, stockholm syndromatic people are living in byrocratic, corporatic, totalitarian plutocracy. Some of them werent affected, how? Mindset of the zombies is fear and hate. They drag everyone down who thinks for himself. Every form of thinking outside of the scope is ridiculed with negatively stigmatized words or straightly deleted/banned. Zombies don't know, have or feel history or even the present. They just react to what their instinctively needs are. They've divided us, made us poor and sick. "The world is silent The world is dead " "Now the world has gone to sleep Slowly spinning 'round Angels taking flight As the black wings fill the sky And cast shadows on us all" "Noise From a sunless world Your mirror is black, only a copy stares back At a slave of brave new world" "There are still monsters Rise, rise, rise I won't be tamed I won't be tamed, now we must go to war I am all I've got to find a way out of this war Psychologic war Psychotropic war Psychosexual war Face the reality, war Psychologic war Psychotropic war Psychosexual war Face the reality, war ... Softly, dynamically, we fall once again So, try to make friends with yourself All peace to you All peace to all ... Shine for freedom, shine for peace ... Through the storm, may you become a rainbow" Screenshots. Feedback? Is it too easygoing? Exploring? Boring / Needs more to do / more monsters / Don't know where to go. Puzzles? Add more / remove Dialogs/"quests"? Add more / too simple / remove PDA? Useless? Add more stuff to find? Now if you get lost it kinda reminds what to do. And you can find random notes. Some maps still got pretty complex.. pretty and complex (reference, bar scene). Thoughts. Spoiler -I painted myself to the corner with the realistic approach earlier on "Lost civilization 2 intro". So the change now really made everything so much easier. You can sell anything wit a reality twists. It also makes everything so much more interesting as anything can happen. Should've just figured it out a bit faster while had that in lost civ 1 "dream levels". Also didn't try to do so much. Cut down things. Who even likes big and complex levels? Yeah, now some levels are big at size but gameplaywise pretty straightforward. -Nonlinear gameplay is not easy to do. You have constantly think and rethink all the routes and consequenses they represent to the whole. Like map05. It could've been a mess.. Temptation to add more and more. So this is more linear overall. Hate seeing people get lost too much.. -When making "LC1" I had a problem rewarding the player. You break balance so easily with sercets contining ammo, health etc. Now there is always something to pick up when exploring. I kind a liked old games with treasure rooms so now they are back. -When making "LC1" I had a problem with gameplay. At the start there were so little monsters. When playtesting I just added them more and more. Not sure if it was a right decision, tried not to make it still too grindy. Now I could do "only" exploration type better as there are things to to and find. And somewhat got bored with all the violence, hate and war in the world at general.. I can play like 5 maps with monsters and kinda get overwhelmed. -When Doom came I always felt it would be cool to have NPS's there. The world felt so empty. So even a glimpse of another person there would have been nice. So I added NPC's. They are simple but this is not RPG. -Why swinging looking doors that open up. For performance (map03 for ex.). They close bsp-tree, swinging doors won't. Mostly created all of this with low-spec laptop myself. Terrible fps on map02.. -Many ideas here could/should be pushed forward so much. Combat scenarios with "hearts", for example. More destructible walls & floors. More "quests". -There (may be) are items and places with no meaning. They just exist. Too many weapons (you can drop weapons).. I think most games get it wrong when they polish and streamline everything. When everything is "overthought", everything cut which doesn't have a strict purpose, game becames predictable and boring(at least sometimes). Imperfection is interesting. Like in music, there is so many "perfect" songs but I don't care them a bit. More I like a little dissonances, imperfections while ofc sometimes like those songs which seek perfection on their own, huh? Known bugs / fix Spoiler -Still some 3D-models or sprites may pop, renderradius too small or not set -fix rugs disappearing -flatsprites cause problems, clipping -Sky cutouts -make civilians etc invulnerable / punish for killing -fix m40rifle -fix breakable wood debris map01: sound to bookslehves? map02: sound to doors? FPS problem. Skybox, bottom missing. Transfer heights not working on the car. Remove "debug message". map03: skycutout. Remove unused script activation. map05: wrong conv. id. ------------Should fix ------------ -Music to map05, Map06 -Ambient sounds, check and add more -Supplyboxes? Remove? -Remove or implementate skill-levels ------------Check / optional. ------------ -Add localization for mdl-keys .. -Add flares to some other lights as well -I wanted to re-record and maybe add vocals to the music for the battle scene -footstep sounds -inconsistent texturing on breakable walls (only map05) -Too big empty areas with nothing to do -Some places are just a little unfinished (detailing not consistent) -change player sprites -organize / categorize / name pk3 stuff better -puzzle_ inventory etc naming bad, inconsistent -some sprites should have a little cleanup.. -models/jaska/zscript breakableBrick01 health, limit how much destruction clutter is on the map breakableStone01 health, limit how much destruction clutter is on the map -ambient sounds bleeding to wrong areas. -balancing (neverending process) Lost civilization 1: Donate. Spoiler https://paypal.me/JImpolahttps://liberapay.com/Jaska/donate Edited October 9, 2023 by Jaska : Version: 1.0 121 Share this post Link to post
Jaska Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) Credits General Spoiler //============================================================================= Lost civilization 2, Desolation by Jaakko "Jaska" Impola (This PK3) All mapping by me. All resources gathered by me. Some own creations and modifications on (almost?) every category including: ZScript, Decorate, ACS, Textures, sprites, models, sounds, monsters, dialogs, music... //============================================================================= Best communities/sites: Spoiler https://www.doomworld.comhttps://forum.zdoom.org/ Wikis:https://zdoom.org/wiki/https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Entryway https://zdoom-docs.github.io/staging/ZScript.html ZScript credits Spoiler Some credits for zscript are in .wad files... So not copy/pasting them here cherno all code for damaging objects when dropped dodopod (Destructible environment) ZDoom forum link: "[ZScript] Destructible geometry material handler" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=63907 Gitlab link (See for tutorial): https://gitlab.com/dodopod/zscript-material neoworm ZDoom forum link: "HeXen / Heretic - Ultimate decoration pack" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=66784 PDA Starter Kit Credits.txt PDA Starter Kit - Written by Nash Muhandes ZForms - Written by Gutawer and phantombeta https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=65849 Jekyll Grim Payne Waterfall fog effect [zscript] https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=69110 https://github.com/jekyllgrim/Waterfall-Fog-Spawner-GZDoom/releases Jaska Many edits and additions. ================================== Not used, but check out ================================== Apeirogon (not used after all) ZDoom forum link: "[Zsript] Simple weather effects" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=67269 dodopod (Ledge Climbing) (removed on desolation) ZDoom forum link: "[ZScript] Ledge climbing" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=59085 dodopod (Path finding) [Didn't use it after all (or yet?)] ZDoom forum link: "[ZScript] A* Pathfinding" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=58168&p=1091353&hilit=navmesh#p1091353 Decorate credits Spoiler Basically all credits for decorate are in .wad files... So not copy/pasting them here Most of the DECORATE monsters, items etc are from Realm667: https://realm667.com/index.php/en/repository-18489 Some breakable items are from "DoomEnhanced" Cryobus [Monster] Cybergunner,Melee Revenant & Cryocubus https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=50614 HeXen / Heretic - Ultimate decoration pack https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=66784 osjclatchford's "trees! grass! bushes! etc... (map decorations!)" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=35861&start=60 labrat, insane civilians, daisy Jaska Many edits and additions. ================================== Not used, but check out ================================== Red heavy "Heavy Rifle Guy" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=55815 Model credits Spoiler Comment, Jaska: I scaled some model skins down on quality and/or changed pic format. Some work to do there still as I wasn't aware of it at first. For example one skin could take up to 3 megs as bmp but only 0.1 meg on jpg. Some models had their origins misplaced so I changed them too on some models. Important specially on models that I put collision on. Also they would clip through 3d-floors and be seen through that floor. ================================== Models from Sitters: http://www.md2.sitters-electronics.nl/models.htm Blackrayne modelpack: [Resource] 700 black rayne studios models by WARCHILD_89 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=58223 neoworm ZDoom forum link: "HeXen / Heretic - Ultimate decoration pack" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=66784 TEDER/AA for cable models Paranoid: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/paranoid Bottle of rum https://free3d.com/3d-model/bottle-of-rum-v1--989804.html Animated curtains by HAL9000 "Curtains blowing in the wind?" https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=68687 See also folder "credit_other" file: Credits.curtains Jaska -Breakable things -Fireplaces -Some buildings -Window frames Texture credits Spoiler Textures from Realm667:https://realm667.com/index.php/en/texture-stock-mainmenu-152-97360/other-sources-styles-mainmenu-155-26369 Stonghold.pk3 https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/projects-mainmenu-50/104-projects/finished/236-stronghold-on-the-edge-of-chaos cage_tex.wad (Cage's Texture Pack) CageTex2.wad kngpintx.wad (also kingpin_textures.pk3) rdnrmptx.wad Textures.wad outlwtex.wad? DoomPotpourri.wad Blood Duke Nukem 3D Shadow Warrior AVP Ghostbusters Doom Tex's Cybermage textures http://realm667.com/index.php/en/forum-board/texture-stock/536-submission-cybermage-textures SOF www.realm667.com/index.php/en/downloads/texture-stock/987-soldier-of-fortune/file maybe some others? great resource. HQDefault SNACKMCH1.png Meerschweinmann COMPSER2 COMPSERV galileo31dos01 (statusbar) Mechadon, STKEYS0-8 "Reakuthecrate" the green big numbers (hud). Idgames archive: rtp.wad by RottKing https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/rtp Hellcore 2.0 https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/hc20 Epic 2 https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/epic2 Bloody steel https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/bldstlp Ukiro OTEX_1.1.WAD https://doom.ukiro.com/about-otex/ Foxhead's FoxTex Volume 3: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/129369-foxtex-free-to-use-texture-pack/ Thfpjct (RWLTEX: A PS1 and Goldsrc inspired texture pack) https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122046-rwltex-a-ps1-and-goldsrc-inspired-texture-pack/ 2 plant tex's Simon 'Sock' O'Callaghan (Sorry for scaling them down so much!) Industrial & terrain texturepack, see "credits other"-folder http://www.simonoc.com/pages/artwork/tp_industrial.htm http://www.simonoc.com/pages/artwork/tp_terrain.htm elend (liquids) nue (shadows) spycek (shadows) Eradrop (skies) Mechadon (skies etc.) http://mekworx.the-powerhouse.net/mekastuff/wads/boxoskies/boxoskies-v3.zip Skies http://www.custommapmakers.org/skyboxes.php Viggles http://thief.washboardabs.net/textures/ Inqvisitor 3 Nature tex's, sprites Clay_Veg Grass textures (2) ZDoom forum, rock textures, etc from abbuws texture extravaganza V3.pk3 Doomworld forum, texture thread misctec.wad https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90900-post-your-doom-textures/?page=40 Ashes2063 tenebrae.wad Valve.wad, valiant vaccinated edition (skillsaw) Community chest 4: cc4-tex.wad, Resource Wad Doom3 textures: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/92309-doom-3-textures-for-doom/ NiGHTMARE Killing Time: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=52113http://www.teamhellspawn.com/stalungcraeft2.0.0wad.zip chainworm kommandohttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/nmncorp2 SGGeroy and Hell_Pike (trees) Kingpin.pk3 an_mutt support tex retronova10 crusher panel LoneAlpha2401 exitsign Textures from dead.wire: - couple by Ed Cripps (DECOTX*), from Putrefier - a few xasery things (TSTATIC*) - some space sky from somewhere Solmyr: vending machine XLightningStormL: ATM https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111709-office-stalker/ Textures by Jaska -Those "awesome" adverts -Also some paintings, 3D model painting textures.. -Textures starting with ji, ji_ -Many edits I can't remember -Lecture -Firewood Sprite credits Spoiler DeeDeeOZ for civilians [SPRITES] Civilian Sprites in Doom Style https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=72748 Not used here but check out: Payback {Modern human/monster Replacer} https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=77416 Elend -Cables -Waterlily -Trees -Pottery Stonghold.pk3 Clay GreenTree, BigMassiveTree, bushes etc Inqvisitor 3 (Trees, bushes, etc) Cherno Robots https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67391 Rampancy - [2.0] by Yholl https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67193 shtbg 8 (Dead trees etc) https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/73426-share-your-sprites/?page=21 NPCs -Stronghold -120skins_.wad, multiplayer skins, see NPC_120skins_.txt for more info A newer version of the skinpack is available: [Skins] 150 Doomguy Skins (New Download!) https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=62324 Hexen rocks, haystuff NeoWorm Leave debris etc https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/66868-knee-deep-in-the-jungle/ lilpastasalad (2 trees) TR50A0.png -> TreeLC47 TR51A0.png -> TreeLC48 scalliano (PDA sprite, PDA.wad, autosave) 3PDAA0 HACX BPAKA0, ARM1A0, other sprites, few textures Jaska -Many edits, can't remember -Breakable lamps, puzzle items, food, ... -Coin, goldars, coinpouchs, heart, ... are from AI generated modified images -Firewood -Newspapers -Artgallery stuff - ... Sounds & music credits Spoiler http://www.grsites.com/archive/sounds/ ambient category household category http://www.grsites.com/archive/sounds/category/16/?offset=0 See sndinfo.grsites for better info https://freesound.org See sndinfo.freesound for better info From projects: Paranoid Stronghold Verdant citadel Hexen prop pack Thief sounds from spooktober, Marisa Kirisanes's SNDINFO Spooktober Community Mapping Project https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=62163&hilit=spooktober Some music by Jaska -JI_ * -Jaskan bändi -etc. -Mostly very old stuff from early 2000. One made 2023. "Lecture" credits Spoiler Lecture textures captured by Jaska from: Health: Lecture on vitamin C by brilliant Suzanne Humphries https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0LLX0sgwAU Vaccines & Immunoexcitotoxicity - Dr. Russell Blaylock https://youtu.be/HYV8laCbNSE?t=3968 Dr. Russell Blaylock - Nutrition & Behavior Dangers of Aspartame & MSG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0kvaulUIfc&feature=youtu.be Economy: Can't remember exact source on some pics. One quote used to be in this location.. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/quarterlybulletin/2014/qb14q102.pdf http://www.bis.org/publ/work490.pdf The Chicago Plan Revisited, Jaromir Benes and Michael Kumhof https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf The Quigley Formula - G. Edward Griffin lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynVqPnMQ2sI Tools used. Spoiler Programs that I used: Ultimate Doom Builder Slade 3 Gimp Blender Audacity Misfit 3D for a little .md2 edits. Only one I found working after 5 downloads... https://sourceforge.net/projects/misfitmodel3d/ AceToolkit by Accensus (for editing dialogs) https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=232&t=68329&sid=af7b636cc24ca9fa62aa5e95d1f5681b Text generator: https://c.eev.ee/doom-text-generator/ Inspirational music or something related to the project or to something else. Spoiler HYPOCRISY - Dead World They have a master plan Divide us all, make us suffer Terminate the human wh*re We’ll drop like flies, we’re the lab rats You hate me, I hate you They’re feeding off our hatred They’re feeding off our anger They push me, they push you They push us in the corner and wait for us to explode I see the world dead With their evil minds and evil plans I see the world dead With bleeding fits and triggered hate, the slaughter of the damned Will we ever stand our ground, or will we lay down and wait to die? With poison in our veins, chemtrails as far as eye can see We’ll drop like flies With this hunger games There is no justice, there is no truth, of what they’re saying and what they will do With aluminum in our veins We will drop dead soon Governments around the world is about to succeed with their evil plan, exterminating humans See how we run, see how we suffer Turning us against each other I see the world dead With their evil minds and evil plans I see the world dead With bleeding fits and triggered hate, the slaughter of the damned The earth is cracking into pieces, we are the global experiment The hate is driving us mad It’s the slaughter of the damned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIRP4QN_Nw HYPOCRISY - Chemical Whore Swallow your freedom, swallow your smile Swallow your sanity that crawls and itching inside We got the cure, we got your fate We got everything you want, so you don’t have to think again From botanicals to synthetic drugs Pharmaceutical industry is born It is not to cure, it’s about to control Your money, your health, they want to own it all You’re the chemical whore They make you beg on your knees for more A chemical whore Steals your life, steals your mind, whatever is left of your soul We’ll make you addicted, our little bitch We love your money much more than your pity health With our expensive pills we control your fear We disconnect you and tell you what to feelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJRUq90EC_A&list=RDGMEM_v2KDBP3d4f8uT-ilrs8fQ&start_radio=1&rv=YCqG9B8j-cI HYPOCRISY - Greedy Bastardshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s8YGktKSE4 HYPOCRISY -We’re the Walking Dead We're the walking dead We're living the dream in paradise We're the walking dead Programmed to obey, programmed to die Brainwashed, lobotomized Makes the perfect citizen-suicide Sterilized, tranquilized We have no rights, we're in the dark!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCaeNIs01pY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Awesome fan made video, movie is "Equilibrium" which also is awesome Fear Factory - Archetype "You must never forget The essence of your spark All of which that defines you Is the essence of your blood The infection has been removed The soul of this machine has improved The infection has been removed The soul of this machine has improved Look in to my eyes And tell me what you see Someone real? This is real! What you wish to be! Open your eyes (Open your eyes, open your eyes) Open your eyes (Open your eyes, open your eyes) Open your eyes (Open your eyes, open your eyes) Open your eyes (Open your eyes, open your eyes) Open your eyes (Open your eyes, open your eyes) Open your eyes (Open your eyes, open your eyes)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1reT2HESYw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yngwie Malmsteen - Seventh Sign The earth is crumbling, the end is near No one's listening, I'm filled with fear Hear the warning, in the prophet's word Day by day, we're destroying this world No more water No more blue skies No one cares, no one tries To save what we once had World at war (a world at war) Rich and poor (rich and poor) Burns in hell (burns in hell) Hear doomsday bells (doomsday bells) Ringing loud (ringing loud) I see black clouds We are making Lucifer so proud Blind leading the blind No one sees the seventh sign We're left behind (kinda bad quality but still love the live feel and the so powerfull singing)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odj0nFAqW7M ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Megadeth - Millennium of the Blind "Line up all of you and turn in your eyes You just won't need them anymore And your mind is ours to do with what we please Everything you own and everything you need Sacrifice you leaders Like it or not Or else you're going down with the ship Death on the rocks Blind follow Blind lead All our hopes and dreams Washed out to sea All your money's ours to bankroll corrupt wars You can't see what you're fighting for Trust your leaders as they send you out to die The true face of evil can't be seen without eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjhGB_3q8LQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Isole - Forged by Fear The word is silent The world is dead Only ruins remains Only hope was restrained Emotional decay Egoism commence Static domination Empathic precipice The heirs are now too old to rule A governmental demise Forged by fear are the cynic rulers Fed by greed, they dig mankind's grave The tears are lost And also the morning sun Words in fire The bonfire of history The air is now too thin to breathe Everything will cease to exist Forged by fear are the cynic rulers Fed by greed, they dig mankind's grave Tomorrow's world is far too real The political plague grew too strong Tomorrow's dream will never be There's no escape, what have we done? Tomorrow's world is far too real Tomorrow's dream will never be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA79Hoxb9Ek Isole - Open Your Mind With an open mind you can see All the oppression, all the guilt And all the greed Raise your voice Freedom of speech You’re not alone We can make the difference It’s time to stop wallowing in the mire Embrace yourself and make a stand Somеwhere deep down in your subconscious A voice of rеason is growing strong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgHmoVVHS7s Isole - Written in the Sandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnRUJ77A14M&list=OLAK5uy_nHDn9dD3BDVY5-cBRR293PczpM2SBZEQM&index=2 Isole - You Went Awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke48xgQRmJY&list=OLAK5uy_nHDn9dD3BDVY5-cBRR293PczpM2SBZEQM&index=5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Megadeth - Washington Is Next! !The quiet war has begun with silent weapons And the new slavery is to keep the people Poor and stupid, "Novus Ordo Seclorum" ... How can there be any logic in biological war? We all know this is wrong But the New World Order's beating down the door Oh something needs to be done ... Disengage their minds, sabotage their health Promote sex and war and violence in the kindergartens Blame the parents and teachers It's their fault, "Annuit Coeptis" ... Attack the church dynamic, attack the family Keep the public undisciplined 'til nothing left is sacred And the "have-not's" get hooked And have to go to the "have's" just to cop a fix!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnBT9PLAoqU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Soulfly - World Scum yeah! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_EPTbMPtdc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ..AND OCEANS - 'The Collector and His Construct'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTWCrOwVrPA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A f u ck i n g MASTERPIECE Devin Townsend - Singularityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDSaodyiBQo&t ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just, huh ... listen it, so powerful Sepultura - Guardians of Earthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yNxUYIEkuA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nightwish - Noise From a sunless world Your mirror is black, only a copy stares back At a slave of brave new world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9dJtYxst-0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MARINA - Ancient Dreams In A Modern Land "You don't have to be like everybody else You don't have to fit into the norm You are not here to conform" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V17JN76uxc MARINA - To Be Human All the people living in, living in the world today We're united by our love, we're united by our pain ... Still, I don't know, don't know what it means To be human ... I want connection, ooh I wanna feel human again (To be human) Lost my direction, ooh I wanna feel human again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8Tm9ycGz4 MARINA - I Love You But I Love Me Morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT2uhkNGLUk MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS - Froothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZzcY7ASQno Clean Bandit - Baby (feat. Marina & Luis Fonsi)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlznpxNGFGQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Katy Perry - Chained To The Rhythm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um7pMggPnug ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mors Subita - Blackouthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9taKXqf8ahI&list=RDGMEM_v2KDBP3d4f8uT-ilrs8fQ&index=7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Green Carnation "Maybe?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onvnoiyfOm0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ESOTERIC Morphia "I walk amongst the shadows of the dead Thoughts bleeding into the ether Into endless night" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuaYAtBLJHM Esoteric - The Secret Of The Secrethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCGNI6uPZls Esoteric - Circle I have a million questions. but no will to ask Through chaos. rationale speaks clearly Decay sets in amongst the fragments... Such weight lies within knowledge Crippled by thought Eyes that see too much lose the will to see And the pain that spills from these walls Blasts through this withered body The circle has begun Time is not won Losing this battle to remain In this place I dare not dream For awakening the demons that will find me Blinded by madness Such endless probability And I must know every thing and every thought And I must uncover all answers sought For sleep eludes when this frustration taunts And drives me to release Or travel towards end So dead inside And all but to live on Burning from within Maddened eyes Filled with boiling blood Sullen Grow sharper with the pain To rest now Until we meet again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rie7Prw8Gqc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Morbid Angel - Hatework "I call death Death is answering me And a world betrayed Is black forever"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxjSvFeCTps Morbid Angel - Dawn of the Angry "Anger rise! We wage a war Our nature to preserve By any means Our enemies be gone"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hFEsVP13WE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Andrews Sisters - Rum And Coca-Colahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiayZdPESno ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Muse - Knights Of Cydonia Come ride with me through the veins of history I'll show you a god who falls asleep on the job And how can we win when fools can be kings? Don't waste your time, or time will waste you ... No one's gonna take me alive The time has come to make things right You and I must fight for our rights You and I must fight to survive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sBOsh-vyI Muse - Uprising Paranoia is in bloom, The PR transmissions will resume They'll try to push drugs that keep us all dumbed down And hope that we will never see the truth around (so come on) Another promise, another seed Another packaged lie to keep us trapped in greed And all the green belts wrapped around our minds And endless red tape to keep the truth confined (so come on) They will not force us They will stop degrading us They will not control us We will be victorious (so come on) Interchanging mind control Come, let the revolution take its toll If you could flick the switch and open your third eye You'd see that we should never be afraid to die (so come on) Rise up and take the power back It's time the fat cats had a heart attack You know that their time's coming to an end We have to unify and watch our flag ascend (so come on) They will not force us They will stop degrading us They will not control us We will be victorious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ OMFG as the youth would say, I actually listened this band back in the -90s. I'm born in -83 so wasn't too old, heh. So, comeback is real. PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - Drifthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeihEW4PMkY PSYCHOTIC WALTZ -Hanging On a String Riding on an endless carousel of wishes, hopes and dreams And it seems that I lose more than I gain All the same I remain hanging on a string Is it wrong Will it save me from the fall Or will it just be broken by the wind As it spins All I save seems to just get taken all away Well it seems like life is just a game of faith No mistake Always try to give more than you take Always try to make a little more Out of nothing, if not less Always better than your best As you try Will you fly Will you sail through the sky And leave it all behind with yesterday Will you say I have faith And that's one thing they'll never take away If I had a chance, lord one more chance to try I would start again, nothing to pretend Without a lie I would try I would fly I would sail through the sky And leave the misery with yesterday And I'll say I have faith And that's one thing they'll never take away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bip4rWSD_6w Psychotic Waltz - Mosquitohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTiVFayC5qA PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - While The Spiders Spin Here in my cell Down in my shell I hold in my hand a hi-def window to my life I'm a modern man Here in my cell I can choose my addiction (my addiction) While the spiders spin Here in my cell My wishing well I find my love Encoded, encrypted she comes to me And she supplies Stuck like flies, this web worldwide will swallow Make hollow Spin the looms to our cocoons they bleed you Bereave you Caught like flies this web worldwide will swallow Make hollow Spin the looms to our cocoons they bleed you Bereave you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXhoWwHMp5o PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - All The Bad Men "Have you heard of all of the bad men? Have you heard of all the bad, bad men? Some say the bad men started every war And they lied to the world Denied to the world Some say the bad men seed the clouds today When they rain on the world Bring pain on the world Code name "Operation Nightshade" Say goodbye to the world Try not to cry for the world" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Heqhw0Z1o PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - Sisters of the Dawn "What have we created here? Asylum of hate and fear Alone on a Godless sphere ..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsH-t9Aa_sQ PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - Demystified Demystified We're all demystified We cry to no avail Better we just save ourselves Better we just save ourselves We're blinded by the Sun We are blinded everyone We are trying to feel our way We are trying to find the day I climb the mountain to ascertain To hear the wise man speak to me again His words of wisdom chilled me to the bone "Be like the water, not like the stone" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=432qD08-sRU PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - Devils And Angels ( A fking masterpiece, listen!!) The passage opens and I slip in Into your conscience under your skin Through the doorway my shadow spills Straight to your senses to prey upon your will Devils and Angels We will rise You have manifested a living form Of all your secrets, all your buried bones We are forsaken, sentenced to descend But with your wicked wishes we can rise again Devils and Angels Devils and Angels We will rise Past the fringe of your perception (we are waiting) Just beyond your reach (how long we've been waiting) We are alive and we will soon arise We have survived falling from so high Devils and Angels Devils and Angels We will rise Now the world has gone to sleep Slowly spinning 'round Angels taking flight As the black wings fill the sky And cast shadows on us all While the serpents serenade "Rise" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u1V8G43ytE PSYCHOTIC WALTZ - The Fallenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKCKKOgNkiY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jem - they "Who made up all the rules? We follow them like fools, Believe them to be true, Don't care to think them through And I'm sorry, so sorry I'm sorry it's like this I'm sorry, so sorry I'm sorry we do this And it's ironic too 'Cause what we tend to do Is act on what they say And then it is that way Who are they? Where are they? How can they possibly Know all this? Who are they? Where are they? How can they possibly Know all this? Do you see what I see? Why do we live like this? Is it because it's true That ignorance is bliss? Who are they? Where are they? How do they Know all this? And I'm sorry, so sorry I'm sorry it's like this Do you see what I see? Why do we live like this? Is it because it's true That ignorance is bliss? And who are they? Where are they? How can they Know all this? And I'm sorry, so sorry I'm sorry we do this" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSLvcJ4I1mw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Epica - Kingdom of Heaven Prt. 3 - The Antediluvian Universe - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Oo-n0ryRY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sonata arctica - Black sheep Temple of the evil, temple of the weak No one knows how bad he feels Late-night innuendo, temptation of the key "Live with the Black sheep, live with me"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUPea_c8sbM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kotiteollisuus - Hulluutta ja humalaa "Ihmisten silmistä paistaa Hulluus ja humala Ihmisten silmistä paistaa Hulluus ja humala On kauppakeskuksia silmänkantamattomiin Ja TV-sarjatkin on valmiiksi naurettu Ei tarvitse ajatella, ja niin on paraskin Että kaikki on valmiiksi käännetty ja kaulittu" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfTHtpjDJ9I&list=RDGMEM_v2KDBP3d4f8uT-ilrs8fQ&index=10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mokoma - Kesytä perkeleet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RkcVwLR6_Q Mokoma - Valkoista kohinaa (White noise)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7xfw6d8y5o Mokoma - Uskalla eläähttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR_wJapkfYQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AMORPHIS - Hopeless Days I never wanted I never wanted to be born Into this cruel world Into this cruel world I was torn Left behind with grief Lacerated by life Shackled into caves of grieves ... I was born a captive A captive of the night In between Hopeless days I was born on sleet On sleet covered roads I've been driven by howling winds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY0bUjF0YQ8 AMORPHIS - The Wanderer "Behold this man on the road The burden that he holds He lost it all but still he carries on The dead are left behind On the road of pain and grief Promises have been broken Once again he's been deceived Homeless man he is A wanderer without a hope Why this heavy burden What does he seek Homeless man he is Searching for his dreams Why this heavy burden Lost all his beliefs" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDpEBMHRp4g&pp=ygUKYW1vcnBoaXMgIA%3D%3D AMORPHIS - From The Heaven Of My Hearthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKgmKAL4vEY&list=RDEMEOlPD_Xv5fk2zPgOg40mJA&index=3 Amorphis - soothsayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cYqAY_SkbQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ismo Alanko - Nuorena Syntynyt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjzshV5a6t0 Ismo Alanko - Extaasiin "Extaasiin Sinne vie pieni polku halki villin sademetsän Siellä sataa rakkautta joskus liikaakin Extaasiin Sinne vie lämmin iho vasten toista Liikkumatta Vuosisata vuosisadan jälkeen tietää sen Extaasiin, extaasiin" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0PDL3sEYnE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tiamat - Teonanacatl "If you begin to fall Please have some more You could stay at my place if you want I'll sleep on the floor" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxK9y7P44xg Tiamat - A Deeper Kind of Slumber "Robin Goodfellow Dianae, my muse Morpheus in my heart Your sand in my veins It's a deeper kind of slumber What is universe anyway But a pouch of silver coins The intense breathing Of a dying animal A foreboding of afterlife Master keys in oaken chest The somewhere is mine And from there I'll continue All I asked for was a little love Meet me on the other side Where as a rose I will wake Though blind I'll follow every step you take Dianae, my muse Dianae, my solitude Cease to exist, rise to exist no more It's a deeper kind of slumber" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1zVP9uO1CY&list=OLAK5uy_mGgQ4XE1SvVkt27Ml0KSrXqnbkXFiNRTc&index=13 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ajattara - Kalmanto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1RHbmh6S-E ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My Dying Bride - The Prize of Beautyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmGHTdTIAFQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ilta - Ei kukaan muuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjo3g6sRDfo&list=RDZjo3g6sRDfo&start_radio=1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paula Vesala - Olin kerran täällähttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0xCbhHFIqg Paula Vesala - Rakkaus ja maailmanloppuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTBh2hJ7PPY Paula Vesala - Me tanssitaan liian vähänhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whR9mmdjcPQ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IGORRR - DOWNGRADE DESERThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCqG9B8j-cI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jaska - Cat with the hat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QrHzoPyBKE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTP246fnKAI An old French tune (by Georges Brassens) | Pomplamoose ft. John Schroeder Edited August 19, 2023 by Jaska 9 Share this post Link to post
Jaska Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, tom3kb said: @Jaska how many maps are in this wad? It's 7 maps with ending scene and a secret. I'll ad to the 1st post. 4 Share this post Link to post
DoomGappy Posted August 19, 2023 This is very pretty looking. Did you make the textures yourself? 0 Share this post Link to post
Scuba Steve Posted August 19, 2023 "Ope, 'scuse me, I accidentally dropped a magnum opus let me just pick that up real quick." 28 Share this post Link to post
Jaska Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, jo2ukegappy said: This is very pretty looking. Did you make the textures yourself? Ah no, those are gathered from like 1000 sources. I did some textures and edits. Will add credits to 2nd post. Credits are in the .pk3 also. 3 Share this post Link to post
Dynamo Posted August 19, 2023 Well, I did not expect this to drop this soon. As a huge fan of the original and of the original demo release you did a while back, I can't wait to play this one! 2 Share this post Link to post
Insane_Gazebo Posted August 19, 2023 I guess I better check this out :) 5 Share this post Link to post
Biodegradable Posted August 19, 2023 Jaska's delivered a shiny red letter to the community today, kids! 4 Share this post Link to post
Captain Ventris Posted August 19, 2023 Holy shit I gotta get through the first one, dang! 0 Share this post Link to post
mancubian_candidate Posted August 19, 2023 Have been playing through the Original lately, looking forward to this 😄 1 Share this post Link to post
MoiraHeart Posted August 19, 2023 Just beaten the first level. Spoiler That's... Not quite what I expected. Not even sure what to make of it - going from an unorthodox, but classic Doom experience of LC1 to postmodern horror filled with custom content is quite a jarring jump. Gotta beat the rest and see where Jaska is going with this. Also, make sure to punch your boss to death and rob his secret stash. 0 Share this post Link to post
DuckReconMajor Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) really neat so far. Idk where this horse is from but i can't stop staring at both it and the surrounding room. edit: omg the little hexen pigs running around in the vacation spot ♥ Edited August 19, 2023 by DuckReconMajor 1 Share this post Link to post
Jaska Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, MoiraHeart said: Just beaten the first level. Hide contents That's... Not quite what I expected. Not even sure what to make of it - going from an unorthodox, but classic Doom experience of LC1 to postmodern horror filled with custom content is quite a jarring jump. Gotta beat the rest and see where Jaska is going with this. Also, make sure to punch your boss to death and rob his secret stash. Then I call it success, heh. Spoiler I just couldn't stop adding more stuff to it. 2 Share this post Link to post
Jaska Posted August 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, DuckReconMajor said: really neat so far. Idk where this horse is from but i can't stop staring at both it and the surrounding room. Thanks! It is from blackrayne modelpack: Blackrayne modelpack: [Resource] 700 black rayne studios models by WARCHILD_89 https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=58223 2 Share this post Link to post
MoiraHeart Posted August 19, 2023 Just got through it, blind run, no secret content found. Spoiler Well that's certainly... An experience. It feels like a stream of consciousness, I can't quite put the elements together. What's with the existential horror? Are RPG elements really necessary? Is it an adventure, a horror story, a fever dream? What is the purpose of loads of custom monsters and guns? Is it really a sequel to LostCiv? Lost Civilization 2 is a piece of media that completely left me confused, the ingredients of it mashed together just can't make sense in my head, and that's really impressive. I can't quite praise it but I can't critique it either. Maybe I need another go at it. The locales though are extremely impressive, as expected. 2 Share this post Link to post
ShallowB Posted August 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Scuba Steve said: "Ope, 'scuse me, I accidentally dropped a magnum opus let me just pick that up real quick." “oh I dropped my magnum opus for my monster wad.” I thought this was a Plutonia 3 situation from the title. Can’t believe it’s real! 2 Share this post Link to post
Devalaous Posted August 19, 2023 And I havent even gotten through the first one yet! 0 Share this post Link to post
MoiraHeart Posted August 19, 2023 I'd say you can jump right into it without playing the first one. It's a sequel in a very loose sense, and, while carrying Jaska's distinct mapping style, a completely different flavor of Doom experience. 1 Share this post Link to post
Terrcraft Posted August 19, 2023 To anyone who has played the whole thing about how long is this? 0 Share this post Link to post
Lizardcommando Posted August 20, 2023 Well this is an unexpected drop. I'll have to check this one out! 0 Share this post Link to post
Jaska Posted August 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Terrcraft said: To anyone who has played the whole thing about how long is this? You can beat the whole thing in like 30 minutes. Or it can take 1-2 hours. 0 Share this post Link to post
Chopper Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Can't wait for MtPain27's review on this one. Spoiler 3 Share this post Link to post
Geniraul Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Congratulations on the release, I'm glad it's finally out! 23 hours ago, Jaska said: Jaska - Cat with the hat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QrHzoPyBKE This tune sounds quite interesting too! Edited August 20, 2023 by Geniraul 1 Share this post Link to post
roadworx Posted August 20, 2023 holy fuck that looks absolutely gorgeous. how do you people manage to do this shit 1 Share this post Link to post
Master O Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 2:36 PM, roadworx said: holy fuck that looks absolutely gorgeous. how do you people manage to do this shit? The most important benefit of Doom 1 and 2 being open-source is that there are many, many programs to help create such levels, as well as https://www.doomworld.com/forum/3-doom-editing/ and its sub-forums.... 2 Share this post Link to post