Eurisko Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Just announced on livestream is John Romero's SIGIL ,TNT and Plutonia are coming the DOOM ports on PS4 , XBOX ONE and Switch as part of an update coming soon. So, SIGIL is now official. I'm absolutely stunned. Edited September 6, 2023 by Eurisko : The title of the thread seemed out of date at this point. 66 Share this post Link to post
Revenant100 Posted December 10, 2019 Suck on that, No Rest for the Living! 12 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Revenant100 said: Suck on that, No Rest for the Living! They also confirmed No Rest for the Living. The stream is here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/519684536 31 Share this post Link to post
Revenant100 Posted December 10, 2019 Oh. Well, then suck on that, Perdition's Gate! 68 Share this post Link to post
SiFi270 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) Relevant timestamp for the link above appears to be 47:10. I'm still not sure at what point they bring up Nerve though. The good news is, it appears to be using @Jimmy's soundtrack, so congratulations again Jimmy! EDIT: Medikits and stimpacks have a green cross now it seems? I would have gone with blue to match both Doom 4's HUD and the upcoming D64 remake. 13 Share this post Link to post
Revenant100 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SiFi270 said: Relevant timestamp for the link above appears to be 47:10. I'm still not sure at what point they bring up Nerve though. They acknowledge it at 51:46, the exact words being, "There might even be No Rest for the Living, 9 levels just for Doom 2 only. There might be a lot in there." That doesn't seem to be entirely solid confirmation, but maybe the UI shown above with the add-ons is, in fact, very poor and doesn't indicate additional entries lower in the list with a scroll bar of some sort. And if that's the case, I think we can safely say "Hell 2 Pay Confirmed!" 4 Share this post Link to post
Gothic Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, SiFi270 said: The good news is, it appears to be using @Jimmy's soundtrack, so congratulations again Jimmy! Not to throw shade at Jimmy, but it would be a shame if they don't use the original soundtrack made specifically for it. 2 Share this post Link to post
SiFi270 Posted December 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Revenant100 said: And if that's the case, I think we can safely say "Hell 2 Pay Confirmed!" You can keep your CG blobs and blades. I'll wait for something with a little more Kick. Maybe they'll change it to Mighty Rain Attack to reflect Kick being long discontinued. 3 Share this post Link to post
Gez Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Revenant100 said: And if that's the case, I think we can safely say "Hell 2 Pay Confirmed!" That would actually be extremely cool. 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) So my expectation was actually right? Did I slip into an alternate universe where the cool stuff I dream about actually becomes reality? Damn. I did expect Final Doom and NRFTL to be added at a later time due to the ports being rushed back when they first came out. This is awesome, so now we have all classic Doom games and their expansions available on the most important platforms. Now the question is - how did they settle on Sigil (which is basically official now too)? And with Jimmy's music no less? 8 Share this post Link to post
MadGuy Posted December 10, 2019 Porting Final Doom and SIGIL to the XBLA/BFG version (1.11), before it was cool. 0 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, seed said: Now the question is - how did they settle on Sigil (which is basically official now too)? And with Jimmy's music no less? I'd imagine by noting that Sigil is popular, asking Romero, and him saying "cool" or some other kind of word of agreement. 4 Share this post Link to post
RaikohZX Posted December 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, seed said: So my expectation was actually right? Did I slip into an alternate universe where the cool stuff I dream about actually becomes reality? Damn. I did expect Final Doom and NRFTL to be added at a later time due to the ports being rushed back when they first came out. This is awesome, so now we have all classic Doom games and their expansions available on the most important platforms. Now the question is - how did they settle on Sigil (which is basically official now too)? And with Jimmy's music no less? It's free downloadable content so it's likely not too complex for rights management or the like i'd assume. By all means, they could potentially ask the community for being able to upload vanilla-compatible mapsets on there. If they don't, that's where the problems lie. 0 Share this post Link to post
SiFi270 Posted December 10, 2019 Jokes aside, the Wraith megawads may actually have better chances than we think. Tom Mustaine snuck references to them into an official Snapmap made to demonstrate newly added resources. 5 Share this post Link to post
[Vitz!] Posted December 10, 2019 Call me when they release an update that lets you play custom wads 3 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, [Vitz!] said: Call me when they release an update that lets you play custom wads That's exactly what this update is. No they can't let you play whatever you want on consoles (they have to curate it somehow), but it's still custom WADs you can download. 1 Share this post Link to post
[Vitz!] Posted December 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Edward850 said: That's exactly what this update is. No they can't let you play whatever you want on consoles (they have to curate it somehow), but it's still custom WADs you can download. I meant getting whatever wad I find on doomworld and playing it. So yeah. Call me when they do that. Oh wait they can't do it on consoles? Too bad. I'm gonna stick to PC, thank you. 0 Share this post Link to post
cybdmn Posted December 10, 2019 I wonder, which version is shown in the video. Because, if you look carefullly, you can see, that the menu buttons show, Space, Q and, Esc. Is that a PC version, or does any of the console ports supports an keyboard? 0 Share this post Link to post
Boomslang Posted December 10, 2019 yooooooooooooo i wonder if romero knows about this? 0 Share this post Link to post
seed Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, cybdmn said: I wonder, which version is shown in the video. Because, if you look carefullly, you can see, that the menu buttons show, Space, Q and, Esc. Is that a PC version, or does any of the console ports supports an keyboard? Xbox One received support for mouse and keyboard a while ago actually, it just comes down to whether developers want to support it in their games, so it is a possibility. 1 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted December 10, 2019 2 hours ago, SiFi270 said: EDIT: Medikits and stimpacks have a green cross now it seems? I would have gone with blue to match both Doom 4's HUD and the upcoming D64 remake. There’s actually been a small but consistent push in the community to switch to green crosses as they are the international standard depiction of “health” on the battlefield. A Red Cross is a sign of neutrality on the battlefield and is a protected symbol under the Geneva convention. All the classic Doom rereleases since 2006 have used that ugly pill sprite, which is universally detested (hilariously). Literally everyone in the community who gave a rats ass thought a green cross would be better as it’s more universal these days, though I personally am a fan of the heart symbol which is more arcadey. I’ve been using medikits, stimpacks and berserks with the cute little heart since 2016 and I have to say it has increased the quality of the wads dramatically! (lol) Citations incoming: Here are my variants, the Most Legit if I do say so myself: On 8/8/2016 at 6:03 PM, Doomkid said: For those who like the heart option: For those who like the green cross: tl;dr The use of green crosses was a mix of Geneva Convention compliance and listening to the community! 9 Share this post Link to post
Nevander Posted December 10, 2019 How are they making SIGIL official if it's a PWAD? 2 Share this post Link to post
DynamiteKaitorn Posted December 10, 2019 Glad to see TNT and Plutonia getting ported to switch! It's going to be an arse doing GO2IT, Twilight Zone, Maps 25-30, etc... but BOY is this going to be cool! XD 2 Share this post Link to post
Doomkid Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) How are they making SIGIL official if it's a PWAD? id is doing it the same way they made TNT and Plutonia official I assume: by selling them. It doesn't get much more official than that! Of course, it's still going to be free to download for PC users, but this will be really great for console players. I'm glad I'll have something to suggest when console players ask about maps that are decent to deathmatch on. Other than E1M1 and Map01/Map07 of Doom2, there were never any good deathmatch maps to suggest. I still see people asking in the Doom reddit about what maps are good for deathmatch to this very day and it's always a shame to tell them there's only 3. The Sigil deathmatch maps aren't great (Sorry Mr. Romero, you're still great at SP designs!!) but they're a hell of a lot better than the boring slog that is deathmatch on iwad maps. 2 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Doomkid said: id is doing it the same way they made TNT and Plutonia official I assume: by selling them. The addons are free. 27 minutes ago, Nevander said: How are they making SIGIL official if it's a PWAD? By loading it as a PWAD, Doom's supported that since 1993. Yes, the port was already capable of supporting it, that's how Master Levels works and how NRFTL worked on XBLA/BFG. Edited December 10, 2019 by Edward850 4 Share this post Link to post
DynamiteKaitorn Posted December 10, 2019 Sigil was made for modern engines. Will the port to Switch be a 1:1 conversion or a vanilla engine remake? 0 Share this post Link to post
Edward850 Posted December 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DynamiteKaitorn said: Sigil was made for modern engines. Sigil was made for Limit Removing, to which the current port is already. 4 Share this post Link to post
Egg Boy Posted December 10, 2019 It's official! Sigil is now canon! Er... at least as canon as TNT Evilution and The Plutonia Experiment. 5 Share this post Link to post