What "Lost Media" are you interested in?

We all know about films that have been lost for decades (many silent films, but also some sound films, and many films on the BFI's 75 Most Wanted films list), numerous television & radio shows that have missing episodes (such is the case of Doctor Who from the BBC) or completely lost (such is the case of the entire DuMont Television Network TV library), literature never fully published by the author, or in the case of other literature burned before publishing (mainly only existing in manuscripts or excerpts), music (Albums & Extended Plays) from different artists/bands/musicians that never got released (Many of which were demo recordings or recordings from a live concert, but were sometimes bootlegged by fans or had been released on some compilation albums in recent years by either the record label or the artist/band/musician), lots of artwork (mainly paintings) that were stolen from art museums, destroyed or burned in a fire, webcomics that were previously hosted by a writer but were lost when an internet service went defunct, video games that have their source code lost (or likely that developers destroyed backup masters of their source code), video games that were never released (but sometimes exist in prototype form), video games on consoles or PC that are ultra rare they were never dumped on the internet on either console ROM dumping sites or abandonware sites until many years later (such is the case with the 1984 Atari 2600 game Birthday Mania), and software that were in development but were never released. Those kinds of stuff but there is also an interest of Lost Media on different places on the internet, social media, or simply just on LMW (Lost Media Wiki).

Lost Media in this discussion can range from films, radio shows, TV shows, video games, software, music, art, webcomics & internet media (mainly the earliest media from the 1990s until the 2000s).

What lost media do you have interest in? Feel free to comment in this discussion.

I can't really think of any lost media off the top of my head, for me it's more unfinished media. For better or worse, I am disappointed that Marquis de Sade never finished 120 Days of Sodom. Same with Kafka's "Amerika" or "The Man Who Disappeared", depending on which title you go by. 

The only other example I can think of right now is Viacom pulling South Park's "Super Best Friends" and Episodes 200 and 201 due to depictions of Muhammad. 

In software, I would say that the Windows XP Starter Edition foreign releases are unlikely ever going to be found.

Also, according to the Windows Wallpaper Wiki in the Windows XP page in the Starter Edition wallpapers section, they mention the Sub-Saharan African and Egyptian versions of Starter Edition, but it's not likely they were ever released.

10 minutes ago, insertwackynamehere said:

Apparently the director’s cut of Event Horizon is lost forever. That’s kind of the Doom movie that never was.

I've heard over and over again that Event Horizon is the actual Doom movie, but I've watched it at least five times and I don't see it. It's a good movie, but it's not a Doom movie. Maybe a Doom 3 movie, but not 1 or 2. It is a shame the original director's cut was lost though; thanks Paramount.

There's a documentary about trepanation in which a woman drills a hole in her own cranium, which sounds interesting to put it mildly.

I got interested in a certain "Saki Sanobachi" too, but sadly that's been all but confirmed to be fake.

First thing that comes to mind is Icewind Dale 2, in that game's case the source code is likely gone, so there's no potential for the game to be remastered.

Another thing is a kind of could have been. I think The Exorcist III: Legion is a great, though flawed film. I watched both the theatrical release and the extremely patchy "Legion" Cut. And I'm actually quite in between on the decisions and reshoots that were made; the ideal would have been that these story issues were hashed out ahead of time, and some compromise happened that allowed the footage filmed for the film's new climax to feel more like its part of a cohesive whole. Because I do like the scenes themselves, and they are quite a bit more exciting than Blatty's intended ending, and I feel there could have been a middle ground where these new ideas were properly integrated into the script. As it is, I do feel the Theatrical cut is solid, its a very cool horror movie. 

I could have also said something about the Cabal cut of Nightbreed but that one has a happy ending. I <3 my deluxe blu ray arrow release with both cuts in full. 

Event Horizon is definitely one I'd agree with

And then, one day randomly online I found an interview with John Carpenter and turns out, he knew about Devilman, he was interested in possibly making an adaptation of it. Got in touch with people, but was never was able to hash out the license issues. The world was denied probably the greatest thing that ever could have existed there... or something that would have been a real curiosity at least. Lost ideas are often as gutting as lost art. 

There was supposed to be an animated adaptation of the Conan story Red Nails. They showed some very rough animation, some concept art and supposedly had Ron Perlman and Mark Hamill lined up for voices. A webpage about it is here. It completely fizzled out, unfortunately.

There was that Star Wars 1313 game that got cancelled after two years of development in 2013. The game was set below the surface of Coruscant (level 1313 / the most dangerous place in the galaxy). It was all cancelled following the purchase of Lucasfilm by Disney.

As for music. There is a set of 16 songs that Jimi Hendrix recorded on tape in 1970 when he was alone with an acoustic guitar. Some songs were further developed in studio and made their way into later releases. Long story short, he gives the tapes to drummer Mitch Mitchell, Hendrix dies, Mitch forgets about them for decades. Just when they're going to surface again Mitch Mitchell dies and the last word about it all seems that Janie Hendrix said in 2010, the Black Gold songs would be release 'this decade'. *tumbleweed roll by and crickets chirp*

A song of Ice and Fire 6 and 7...

50 minutes ago, insertwackynamehere said:

Apparently the director’s cut of Event Horizon is lost forever. That’s kind of the Doom movie that never was.

More akin to Warhammer 40k I think.

In TV, I would say any lost production material of the never produced UPN episodes of Mortal Kombat Federation of Martial Arts.

This was a weird combination of an interactive stock market game and web series in the summer of 2000. There were reports that MK:FOMA was coming to UPN, but the idea never reached an actual development and therefore no TV episodes were ever produced.

Unfortunately, it had very little story in the form of written text in the style of news reports and released video sequences on the website, and was cancelled after only a few months with no explanation given. In the end, what we basically got was a web series with a very small (and really low) budget, terrible fighting scenes, bad acting, weak & lame special effects, and awful backgrounds.

This was also the final production based on the Mortal Kombat franchise by Threshold Entertainment (the same company that produced the 1995 film, the direct-to-video tradidional animation-CGI hybrid film The Journey Begins, the animated Defenders of the Realm TV series, the live-action Conquest TV series, and the awful sequel to the first film Annihilation), about 9 years before Midway Games filed for bankruptcy in 2009 and the acquisition of it's assets (included Mortal Kombat) by Warner Bros (who rebranded Midway's Chicago team as NetherRealm Studios, that's still in business today).

39 minutes ago, Jello said:

For better or worse, I am disappointed that Marquis de Sade never finished 120 Days of Sodom. Same with Kafka's "Amerika" or "The Man Who Disappeared", depending on which title you go by.

Strange that you mentioned 120 Days of Sodom, as is one of the next books of my reading pile.
And yep, pretty much I think the same as you about literary works that are unfinished.
Kafka's novels pretty much are this, not only ''Amerika''. The only one that has and ending... somewhat, is ''The Trial''. And thats up to debate if that is the proper ending... or maybe a dream or something on that vein.

Event Horizon is not a Doom film at all, well for me at least. Its feels like a cross of The Shinning, Hellraiser, and Stargate. Surely its a great setting, but not much for Doom. But yes, its a great movie and one i love/hate it soo much.
Its the first movie that really scared me when i was a child, and the one that gives me the obssesion/fixation i had with eyes.

It relies soo much on atmosphere and sheer terror that its the space equivalent of the shinning to a certain degree, the director intended the movie to be that at least.
A Doom movie needs action and a protagonist that feels helpless, outnumbered and lonely, i think.
 

10 minutes ago, Doom_Dude said:

As for music. There is a set of 16 songs that Jimi Hendrix recorded on tape in 1970 when he was alone with an acoustic guitar. Some songs were further developed in studio and made their way into later releases. Long story short, he gives the tapes to drummer Mitch Mitchell, Hendrix dies, Mitch forgets about them for decades. Just when they're going to surface again Mitch Mitchell dies and the last word about it all seems that Janie Hendrix said in 2010, the Black Gold songs would be release 'this decade'. *tumbleweed roll by and crickets chirp*

Oh, i remember that. Valleys of Neptune was a big disappointment to me. I expected something like ''First Rays of the New Rising Sun'' that has almost all the material for the intended fourth album but with the line up of Band of Gypsyes, but we got just a few unreleased songs, and some never released different takes of old songs.
New Jimi songs are becoming the new ''song n°30 by Robert Johnson''.
Hahahaha

Maybe we get a new Ralph Macchio movie with that theme like he did on ''Crossroads''.

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About the piece of work that might be a lost media, or unfinished one, is the serie ''Pirates of the Dark Water''.
Damm! Amazing show!
It ended abruptely on chapter 21 ''The Living Treasure''.
Its such a shame not only becuase i really loved that show, but because it was the most serious show Hanna Barbera ever produced.
The setting was spectacular!!! The relentless and crawling doom of the dark waters devouring the world slowly, and the travel around a world really alien to try to stop them, meeting interesting characters and amazing stories, that was the perfect setting for a worldbuilding magnum opus.

The Sega Genesis game is awesome as it hints a possible ending to the original show.
''Pirates of Dark Water'' was the best show after ''The Gargoyles'' for me. And hell, this show was amazing! I love it!!!
 

3 minutes ago, P41R47 said:

About the piece of work that might be a lost media, or unfinished one, is the serie ''Pirates of the Dark Water''.
Damm! Amazing show!

I loved that show as a kid. Honestly if I think real hard I could probably name a lot of cool cartoons from the 90s that are just vanished to the ether now, almost none of them got significant home releases. 

In gaming, there was also the infamous Forge town planned for Heroes of Might & Magic III's first expansion pack Armageddon's Blade. This is mostly cut content, but pretty interesting nonetheless.

Here's a link to information we know about this scrapped faction:

http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes3ab/forgetown.shtml

Meant to be a futuristic faction, it would had been likely derived from the Heavenly Forge plot point (the Evil ending) from Might & Magic VII. However, while the Forge was almost completed, fans negatively reacted to the inclusion, and 3DO and New World Computing even recieved death threats. In response, they removed the Forge in favor of the Conflux faction, the latter initially planned for a second expansion pack (which evolution into Shadow of Death).

Some fans of Might & Magic and Heroes of Might & Magic even speculate that this was one of the downfalls of both 3DO and New World Computing that resulted in their bankruptcy in 2003 and the Ubisoft acquisition of the Might & Magic franchise.

Neither expansion pack (or even the Heroes Chronicles series, a HOMM spin-off that uses the same engine as HOMM III) has their source code preserved and were not included in Ubisoft's 2015 HD Edition, so only the HD+ mod is the proper & definitive experience you'll ever get to playing the game on a modern system.

There had been mods for HOMM III to recreate the Forge, but many of them require VCMI, In the Wake of Gods (With ERA II) or just replacing the faction town graphics. So these restorations are not as good as some of the 3DO & New World Computing designs that have been floating around the internet for years.

Otherwise, any prototypes of Heroes of Might & Magic III and its expansion packs are unlikely to resurface.

1.Kurt Cobain's/Nirvana unreleased recordings and other stuff like lyrics of unwritten songs. 

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I'd love to see the original Star Wars that was shown on theaters in 1977.

A lot of weird things I saw on Chilean/Latam TV as a kid I'd love to find again, or even know what they even were, but it's very unlikely.

The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet

Nightbreed was really butchered by the dumbass major studio.  A few years ago the long lost footage was found and restored into a director's cut.   Maybe there's hope for Event Horizon yet?

@Gokuma Footage was found in a Transylvanian salt mine in extremely poor condition IIRC. Whatever is left is what you can find already in worn VHS quality.

Probably the pilot episode of "Saban Moon" just to see just how big of a train-wreck it is 

Other than that I've always wanted to see the original, non slide-show, version of London after Midnight.

didn't they find like hundreds of unreleased songs in Prince's library after his death? I'm sure other artists have many unreleased songs, too. I would love to hear a Bob Dylan song from 60 years ago be released today. 

5 hours ago, P41R47 said:

Strange that you mentioned 120 Days of Sodom, as is one of the next books of my reading pile.

120 Days of Sodom is fucked up, to put it mildly. The fleshed out parts are pretty run of the mill sexual fetishes up to day thirty, with some Coprophilia thrown in. But he never finished the last 90 days, they're basically just notes on what he wanted to explore when he wrote it. And it gets heavily into rape, dismemberment, and necrophilia. That's why I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing that he never finished it. But still, it's a work of literature, so the world deserves to judge it on it's own merits. I'm just amazed that I got to sit in study hall when I was a senior and read it. But I brought it from home.

I am interested in the early Windows games.(Windows 95, 98,XP, etc.) There are a ton of them not on any game database.

10 hours ago, insertwackynamehere said:

Apparently the director’s cut of Event Horizon is lost forever. That’s kind of the Doom movie that never was.

I check online weekly for any fresh news regarding that. Apparently a new release is coming in September which might have some of that footage.

https://www.filmstories.co.uk/news/event-horizon-new-hope-for-deleted-footage/

6 hours ago, unerxai said:

I'd love to see the original Star Wars that was shown on theaters in 1977.

You can find that cut of Star Wars online easily. Some people even sell those copies on eBay. There's also a 4K cut of the original version. There is also the official release but it's DVD and as far as I know the cuts have never been released officially at higher resolutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmy's_Despecialized_Edition

This tin box edition is really nice. You get both the original cuts plus the special editions from 1997.

The deleted scenes from Demolition Man and the Bill & Ted movies.  Also, there is supposely an unreleased album by Dink I would really like to hear as well.  Supposedly the wife of one of the band memebers mentioned this in a review on Amazon.com

Basically everything unfinished, unreleased or stuck in some asswipe collector's hoard.

16 hours ago, Jello said:

I've heard over and over again that Event Horizon is the actual Doom movie, but I've watched it at least five times and I don't see it. It's a good movie, but it's not a Doom movie. Maybe a Doom 3 movie, but not 1 or 2. It is a shame the original director's cut was lost though; thanks Paramount.

Same here, I've seen it recently too, but I will never understand why it is referred to as "closest thing to a Doom movie" by some people, and no, not even a Doom 3 movie. It's literally Hellraiser but in space and with marines, as a gross oversimplification. But I agree that it losing its director cut sucks, I would have loved to see the remaining fucked up shit that was meant to be there but wasn't.

As for me, yeah that Star Wars game being gone for good would be one. Blood's source in legal hell, and the OG Doctor Who episodes gone would be another. But, at least we have the Blood source fully reverse-engineered now, which was meant to also be a faithful recreation, so I guess we do have it now.

11 minutes ago, seed said:

Same here, I've seen it recently too, but I will never understand why it is referred to as "closest thing to a Doom movie" by some people, and no, not even a Doom 3 movie. It's literally Hellraiser but in space and with marines, as a gross oversimplification. But I agree that it losing its director cut sucks, I would have loved to see the remaining fucked up shit that was meant to be there but wasn't.

Honestly, the reason I feel its like that about it to an extent because a genuine Doom movie would probably suck.

I mean, for action hounds it would maybe be appealing but there's not enough story or horror in Doom to support a good movie I think. I think Event Horizon is like taking some things from Doom (and also some things from Hellraiser for sure) but it's a movie, its written as a movie, it works as a movie because movies shouldn't really be 90 minutes of marines shooting monsters.

I'm sorry if that's too boring for the rest of you but I always look at it that being the one shooting the monsters is a lot more fun than watching on screen characters shoot the monsters would ever be, and maybe there just doesn't need be a movie based on every game under the sun.

I don't like it when games think their movies much either, going by the Uncharted and Last of Us games they really suck at it :P

10 minutes ago, hybridial said:

Honestly, the reason I feel its like that about it to an extent because a genuine Doom movie would probably suck.

I mean, for action hounds it would maybe be appealing but there's not enough story or horror in Doom to support a good movie I think. I think Event Horizon is like taking some things from Doom (and also some things from Hellraiser for sure) but it's a movie, its written as a movie, it works as a movie because movies shouldn't really be 90 minutes of marines shooting monsters.

Correct.

But I do believe something like Doom can work on the big screen, there may not be a lot of story in Doom for something deep and thoughtful, but I think a movie close to Doom 3 could work pretty well since that game placed a lot more emphasis on horror and storytelling, as flawed as it was. It's just that no-one was capable of pulling it off so far.

For me, EH is just too far removed from anything Doom related, I mean yeah it has marines and "demons" but Doom invented neither after all, so it's just not enough for me to make a connection between the two universes. So as I said, as gross an oversimplification it may be, EH is basically just Hellraiser in space in my own personal view.

@Boaby Kenobi Oh yeah the Harmy Editions are a remarkable piece of fan made work. The closest thing to the real experience.

I'd like to see the Patrick Troughton (not sure of spelling) episodes of Doctor Who.  I must have seen some of them as a kid when Doctor Who was shown here in Australia, as I have some extremely vague memories of an episode or two, would be great if they got found somewhere.